Golf Swing 10 Positions | Mac O Grady
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Hi James really enjoyed this analysis of the master! You say it is really important that his head/eye is tilting forward to help the back swing could you explain? Also how much forward tilt from the hips do you recommend. By the way love your black country accent!
Would pushing with the right shoulder be the same as pulling with the left?
I took lessons on the MORAD swing for a time and still swing as best I can following the basic principles of it. A few corrections of your analysis are in order and I hope you take them as friendly amendments and not as criticisms. People far too often confuse variants of S&T with MORAD, but S&T is like a 5th grade Cliff Notes of MORAD, which is actually both simple to state, but very complex to understand the groundings of. It is also important to note that though simple to state, MORAD in its pure form is not easy to execute. It is misleadingly so because Mac O is such an extraordinary athlete he can execute virtually any swing effectively and give the appearance that is simple and naturally flowing. It takes much more work for the rest of us to do it as he does. That said; first correction. all your lines at p1 are off because they are based on the assumption that the feet are square to the target line, when in fact part of the basic stance is to have the feet somewhat closed to the target line. shoulders are open to the feet but not to the target line. Next, at p2, note that unlike S&T and other center axis swings the toe of the club head is not down or square to the incline plane. Three, it is also true that we are talking about the shaft plane to be more specific. if the lines had been drawn correctly, you would see that the move from p1 to p2 is not below but on the shaft plane. The key point is that in the MORAD swing as opposed to other center axis swings, there is no forearm rotation. There is only so much shoulder turn to be had on the way back and so the question is when to do it. The answer is in the pictures; it is not from p1 to p2, but is largely from p2 to p3. the move from p3 to p4 is about six inches of hands further up and back and additional hip rotation. Any more acuteness in the angle occurs on the downswing between p4 and p5 and not by having the wrists cock more on the backswing beyond 90*. Also key in the grip is the long not short left thumb to support the increase in lag in the transition. I think you have described the transition move from p4 to p5 misleadingly. you are correct that there is sitting down into the left foot, but the idea here is modeled on the Snead Squat — Hogan and Snead are the principal inspirations of the swing in a sense. You really overstate the extent of a lateral move of the left hips. It is NOTHING like S&T. There is much more of an external rotation of the left knee and upper left leg than a slide. What you missed entirely is the movement to the left of about four inches of both the upper and lower (sternum and belly button) COG which remain over one another. and while there is natural hip rotation at this point it is relatively minor in the transistion. Once the club moves beyond p5 rotation alone drives the swing in earnest around a pivot that has moved about 4 inches left and hips that have moved about an equal amount forward, creating a comparable axis tilt. it is full body rotation at that point which is why in his swing you see so much more of his back at and just after transition (from the DTL view) than you would ever see in s&T. What you have to notice is that at p6 the hips and shoulders have not rotated much or very quickly at all, but between p6 and p7, the amount of rotation of BOTH is substantial. This is among the reasons learning the swing is much harder than describing it correctly. There is hardly the hip thrusting compared to what you see in s&T; and while you keep referring to a gigantic lateral move of the hips it is in fact minimal. In fact, it is in fact no more hips to the left or axis tilt than one would secure from the outset were one to set up in the kind of reverse K that many as diverse as Gary Edwin and Slicefixer recommend. The swings are different however beyond that. Slicefixer recommends forearm rotation on the backswing and there is none of that in this swing; and Gary Edwin endorses a good deal less rotation into impact than either Slicefixer or MORAD does. There are many other subtle but important points you are missing in Mac's swing but they are part of the 'secret' sauce and not mine to divulge. They are his intellectual property, not mine. So I would emphasize that you correct the setup characterization; the extent of emphasis on hip lateral slide; that is an S&T distortion of MORAD; also I would not emphasize a pulling of anything with the left shoulder. It is all squating and sitting into the left side and moving the COG forward about 4 inches or so. The transition should remind you of Snead; and the impact and club going left as a result of body rotation, not arm movement should remind you of Hogan.
Is there a reason for right armpit attachment?Does it just pertain to this swing model?
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In Gary McCord video on youtube about the O'Grady teaching/research it seemed it was less of a left shoulder pulling at top to start the down swing but more of a right shoulder dropping 4 inches. The right (back shoulder) seemed to be the driver that forced the lateral movement of the hips. (almost direct quote of the teaching moment) The right elbow also gets reconnected to the rib cage. I tend to swing over the top so everytime the swing was explained as a left shoulder pull I could not get the feeling of lag. I think McCord trying explaining the swing as a push from the right shoulder dropping rather than a left shoulder pull. (it might all happen at once and might be the same explanation but for me it is a better swing thought and helps me stay behind the ball.
the left picture shows him to have a closed alignment ( see feet ). ?
Hi James, thanks for sharing! Quick question, youve mentioned a lot from P4 -> P5 a lot of lateral movement towards the target and a left shoulder pull, would you agree there is also a significant amount of rotation in this motion too, lead hip internal, lead knee external etc?
if he was that good, how come he never won? To many P"s ? lol
does any of his change for the driver?
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