HAS GOLF CHANGED Ross Fisher shots 61 around the old course St Andrews and there are ripples of concern from people like Gary Player talking about the golf ball and modern golf equipment having too big of an effect on the golf.

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  1. I agree on everything you’re saying and I think you mentioned it I think the driver and ball has made the biggest impact for the better players.

  2. 11 years ago I played the old course on April 1st (April fools day) backwards, the original way the course was designed…..we teed off it was sleeting with 20 mph winds, then the sun was shining out by the water, then it snowed the way back in. Best day of my golfing life!!! Also played Carnoustie the next day and the local caddie we had said it was one of the windiest days has had ever caddied. All links courses should be played in weather! Love it.

  3. Every record in sports has begun to be topped. This is not unique to golf, and Gary needs to get over it. Of course we want to see these guys go low.

  4. 7305 yards is the length when the open is played at St Andrews. They have changed the Eden and New courses over the years to add length. I think they are at the point little land is left to add more.

  5. The Course, The Conditions and Equipment available is the same for all the players. On that day. Ross just played 18 holes better than anybody else. If it had been blowing a gale with hailstones coming down and he shot a 72 to every bodies 80 would we still be moaning, and remember he still did not win it.

  6. As said, great round from Ross, but seems everyone forgot it’s the guy holding the clubs that makes it happen, or not which ever the case maybe. Well done Ross, excellent round😎

  7. An interest chat Mark with great points regarding Links courses. However the main question that came to mind is 'are you trying to grow a beard or is it just laziness?'
    Keep up the good work

  8. To your point bruh. The 2010 Open. Rory (not #7), shot a major tying record of 63 1st round and backed it up the next day with and 80.

  9. That may have been the round of his life, and the course may have been easier for all on that day. The old course can be very tough when its windy (which it usually is), but without the wind not nearly as tough. Add receptive greens etc and conditions alone can make a huge difference.

  10. Great round by Ross but the course record was 62 set by Curtis Strange in the Dunhill Cup in 1987 yes 30 years ago but because the course has been lengthened since then it doesn't count
    this tournament is a pro am so was it set up as The Open would have been . Never the less still a great round ,we don't want to go back in time golf is alive and well we don't want to mess with it
    let it evolve as it has done for over a century .

  11. No other sport mirrors life better than golf. There used to be joy in overcoming the challenges, good luck and or bad luck that we faced everyday, there is now an expectation of technological resolutions to those challenges, which has in fact rendered far too many things far less meaningful.

    But in golf, there is no easy way to learn the basics of hitting a golf ball. It takes hard work and countless hours to figure it out. And sometimes, it's not even fun. And, well, if it's not "fun" and "easy" people just aren't interested in it. There are far more fun and easy things to do that don't require near the commitment that golf does.

    People don't want to be challenged. So has golf changed? Well, golf was a simple concept. Once you tee off, you don't touch the ball with anything other than the club until you pull it out of the hole. It's people not wanting to face that challenge that has forced the change. While at the same time, in an effort by the golf industry to make the game more fun and easier, it has actually been rendered more meaningless. The USGA and R&A are fighting the good fight to maintain the integrity of the game in my opinion.

  12. As the years pass, humans get better at what we push ourselves to do. But you wouldn't extend the 100metre Olympic final to 110 because runners are breaking world records. I agree with previous remark that St.Andrews is not easy for 99% of golfers. If the wind drops, all links course are somewhat easier to play.

  13. I belong to a country club and have watched numerous members' gain a lot of length and accuracy over the years just because of the ball and club technology. I play the same guys I used to out drive and hit more greens in regulation that are now keeping up with me easily even with their horrible unbalanced swings and bizarre compensating grips and alignments. The equipment has evened us up and being more athletic and powerful isn't nearly as much of an advantage as it was 15 years ago. Our course is the local High School's home course and to see 130 lb ungrooved swinging kids average 280+ on their drives and taking 150 yard PW shots proves how far the equipment has really come. We have 70 year olds that hit 300 yard drives that didn't hit that far when they were in their 30's and when asked do you think you would have hit further if you had today's driver back then, they always say no because the ball has advanced far more than the equipment. I have one of the original TaylorMade Burner metal woods with a 42" Dynamic Gold S400 shaft that I played with Maxfli XL balls at about 280 yard carry in the 90's. When my swing is a little loose, I'll grab the old Burner to tighten things up a bit and with today's balls (I play the ProV1 or TP5) I hit it well past 280 and I'm almost 50 years old. So much of it is about the ball.

  14. When I started playing golf in the late 70's I had a persimmon (wood) driver and a used set of Hogan Apex irons. Back then the most common discussion related to equipment was whether one should use 90 or 100 compression wound golf balls. Today I have a Callaway X-RAY driver, three metal wood and JPX EZ irons. The equipment certainly has changed. What has not changed is my golf game. I still have one or two blow up holes, lose golf balls, and have a great time playing with friends.

  15. My opinion of Gary Players comments would be did the equipment from his era not improve from the days Old Tom Morris used to play? He never said we should go back to hickory sticks

  16. I remember an interview with Gene Sarazen (first Grand Slam winner, sand iron inventor, mega-legend of golf, etc). He was asked what had changed golf the most over his time since the 1920's, and his response stunned me: "The lawnmower". This is a major reason golf scores are so much better, the courses are in near-perfect, manicured condition! That has to help scoring enormously.
    And of course, there have been vast improvements in player conditioning, clubs, balls, golf wear – everything!!
    What amazes me is that anyone is surprised that scores are lower, when all these improvements really mean that scores MUST be better!

  17. It's the ball. It's the ball. It's really, really the ball. (Yes, it's the clubs and fitness, too. But it's the ball.)

    When I started this game in the late 1980s, we were hitting wound balata balls with persimmon woods and blade irons. Metal (especially titanium) woods helped, so did perimeter-weighted irons. But the ball! Back then, average players had absolutely no business hitting tour balls. They spun way too much, exacerbating hooks and (more likely) slices, and even straight shots were really short with them. So we hit balls with solid cores and Surlyn covers. Horrible around the green, but at least they traveled okay and stayed on the course.

    These days, almost everyone should be playing a tour ball. With multiple layers, you can access the core with a slower swing speed (getting more distance) while taking advantage of the soft urethane covers for more spin around the greens. In other words, the trade-off is no longer there. Low spinning balls off the tee mean straighter, longer shots.

    This phenomenon is even more so with the professionals. They used to make the trade-off by playing wound balls with balata covers. Shorter off the tee, sure, but they spun and held greens, so it was worth it. But now they get maximum distance off the tee AND high spin into and around the greens. They don't need most of the equipment improvements–except maybe lighter drivers with graphite shafts. But the ball has changed everything.

    Dial it back.

  18. Not to do with equipment the old course depends on natural defences i.e. wind dry conditions its wide open and it was soft with little to no wind . On top it wasn't set up in the same manner it would be for the Open . Look at the scoring in the old Dunhill cup 62 s aplenty